Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2010.05.25 06:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Tom Peeping
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Another thing that would happen, is crap like this would stop.
I always find stuff like that interesting.
Personally I don't accept stuff like that (regardless of whether it's Pro or Anti) without pursing the info a little more. (with a name like "truth out" they are hardly going to be an unbiased group.
I don't know about you, but I have a number of family members and friends in active service right now, and several more who are back home after having served, one of whom was awarded the purple heart.
Interestingly enough those friends and family all consistently tell the exact opposite... they they are constantly weighted down by rules of engagement requiring them to be cautious even to the point of putting themselves at risk at times. Should I believe newscasts like this, that paint an across the board picture of grim horror, or should I believe people I actually know, who said that certainly doesn't paint an accurate picture of their experiences?
I know which one I go with.
I work with guys who pulled triggers in the sandbox.
Really work with them, training in firearms usage and other matters.
I can tell the difference between the guys who had to wash the blood of both friends and enemies off their bodies, and those who "served" and sit around glorifying the armed services.
(I am also a veteran)
The guys who have actually stepped over the dead and have, as a friend who almost shot me in a killhouse once said "I have seen shot people and it's just not good., no love or support for war.
Those who sit around in funny hats telling people that military service is a good career, and smack of all that glory and honor crap, hanging out at the VFWs, few of them saw real action. Those who did are obviously still traumatized to a point where they still emulate and love the source of their torment (the state).
And I made the mistake of asking some of these guys, in one of those moments where they appear to be looking at something "what's up?".
But there are those who cast their lot with it, whose only defense against it was to embrace it. Like if you accidentally wreck someones life and then make fun of the whole thing to ease your guilt. I actually know one fellow who said "It sucked I didn't get to go to Katrina (New Orleans). That would have been a chance to shoot N**gers".
(and this is a dude from the Northeast US, not some southern state that everybody says is full of racist rednecks - in fact having lived in one of those states the nicest people to me not of their religion, background, and ethnicity, were the rednecks.)
So some of them curl up in a ball inside and if they catch you talking about kicking ass, honor, glory in killing and other stuff without actually having been in combat, you get an earful at best or a heinous beating at worst. Then there are those who will gladly take the paycheck to disarm you, put you in a truck, and molest your sister in the kitchen as you are being hauled off, and they will do all of that gleefully.
I guess, as they say about payback being a real *****, those who support war and see no problems in this stuff will have the same soldiers coming back to be their police officers. When soldiers are made to commit atrocities, as Grossman (who is not all that) points out, the victim of the atrocity is not the only one being destroyed.
Lately I had to steer clear of one fellow, a roommate of a friend, who almost deserted the Army after fragging out a house, as told to do so, found he killed some kids. Sure he could laugh and say "that's what you get for living in war zone! Lulz" but threatening to desert, going AWOL - perhaps something was bothering him? Though I am told he wants to kick my ass for something I have yet to find out. Oh well. Maybe I will let him if it helps.
Ego is the worst barrier
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